2004-05-11 [Saffron]: Yay first entry! But who's that guy?

2004-05-11 [Raiko Fire]: I have Adobe Photoshop, but I've no clue on how to make a gif...heck, I just figured out layers XD I'll make it my next project >>

2004-05-11 [Saffron]: aww, in PSP, those layers resemble the animation, but I don't know about Photoshop (note to self: find links to tutorials to put here)

2004-05-11 [Raiko Fire]: <.<;;;

2004-05-11 [shudson]: in Photoshop (CS at least) you use layers also. Then you go to File>Edit in ImageReady. In the animation palette options "use layers as frames" Optimize. Save Optimized as>and then you have your GIF (or a number of other formats)

2004-05-12 [barutha]: he is kilroy, a chatshow host from britain. he used to be a tory (equivalent of republican in america) MP. i realy hate him and im sure you owuld too.

2004-05-13 [sky]: In photoshop you can just make the layers and press ctrl+shift+m and it transfers the layers to image ready (or press the bottom button in that tool-window) If I think of something fun I'll enter :)

2004-05-16 [Raiko Fire]: okay...I made my first gif...but it's of my group of friends. Still good?

2004-05-17 [Kieve]: Looks like fun, although I get the feeling this place will become a madhouse soon enough. ;) Question: I know the title says "GIF"s, but I know Flash can do some nifty little things as well. Are SWFs open, or should I stick to the classics?

2004-05-17 [Janouk]: This is cool, I love animations!

2004-05-29 [Saffron]: nice animations people! keep it up!

2004-05-31 [spiritee]: ooo i must trys this sometimes

2004-05-31 [Adnama]: The bunny n' the cheetah animations are awesome! :D

2004-06-06 [Nyaah*]: hey how can i upload a damn animation, tryed it....am to stupid me think O.o

2004-06-06 [Adnama]: You upload it like a picture, only it has to be saved as a .gif file. :3

2004-06-06 [Saffron]: hm there are a few broken links, please all, upload your entries to this page, button is down here (and it works!)

2004-06-06 [Saffron]: um, let's stick to animated gifs for this contest ok? it's the name of the contest, and... I don't know anything about flash

2004-06-07 [mburk]: i wouldve uploaded my pic to this page, but i cant figure out how to do it either

2004-06-07 [sky]: You upload your picture on another page (elftown doesn't support animations) and than put the url here... Like {IMG:www.blabla.pic} only replace the '{' and '}' by '<' and '>'. I used msngroups to upload mine, but there are many other and better sites I guess

2004-06-07 [liiga]: like www.photobucket.com

2004-06-08 [sky]: yeah, some sites are free for a several days though. I hate it when you get a mail saying you have to pay in one week or they'll throw you off...

2004-06-08 [liiga]: photobucket is free all the time, runs on donations (NOT being asked for them in e-mail) and is dedicated to storing images and hotlinking to them. they ask that you don't upload anything bigger than 250 Kb, and there's some bandwidth limitation, but it's quite generous.

2004-06-08 [sky]: Yeah, I heard of it. I have enough space on msn now. ABout 3 mb I think and you can choose the site. I have 4 old emails so 12 mb space :P

2004-06-08 [liiga]: That's nice. I've seen plenty of problems happen with msn groups so I don't trust their storage much. But if it works, it's great. :)

2004-06-08 [sky]: Yeah, some sites don't support it. Our school has blocked msn and so it has done with everything related to is. So at school I can't see pictures taken from msn. But also from other sites. Just because the feel the urge to block them

2004-06-08 [Saffron]: hey! why did you take the suicide bunny off?

2004-06-08 [barutha]: kilroy all the way./

2004-06-08 [Saffron]: there are 2 links not working, both deviantart-direct-linked, please upload those to this page instead!

2004-06-08 [barutha]: how can you upload directly to here? i thought it had to be alink

2004-06-08 [liiga]: Saffron, not Everyone has rights to upload directly to Elftown (in ways other than putting the picture/photo in their house).

2004-06-08 [sky]: I'll make another one... Didn't like it that much. Hmm, elfotwn blocks animation if you upload it at your house en deviantart doesn't let you export them.

2004-06-08 [sky]: It's said when you upload a picture... "You may upload animated GIFs, but Elftown will make them non-moving."

2004-06-08 [barutha]: hmm, tricky.

2004-06-08 [Saffron]: what? the right-thing still goes, aww I apologize then, ok for the people whose link is still working, I'll upload them for you, the rest will have to send theirs to me by email (unless someone still has them in their cache?)

2004-06-08 [Saffron]: hm, uploading to this page doesn't even work, I have to use tech.html (sorry people, guess I forgot I had my pic on my home page's server too!)

2004-06-08 [Saffron]: well, I uploaded as many as possible, there are 2 that I can't see and [mburk]'s won't upload somehow o.o'

2004-06-08 [liiga]: mburk's works anyways though.

2004-06-08 [Saffron]: ehm, make that 1 I can't see o.o (nooo! don't back out of the contest!)

2004-06-08 [xDyingx Valentinex]: would that be mine per chance?

2004-06-09 [Saffron]: yup, your 2nd one, but I went to deviant art once and it worked, so now I cn upload it anyway

2004-06-15 [Saffron]: blood! but not real blood, so I think it's ok :)

2004-06-15 [xDyingx Valentinex]: meh my 2nd one is balls anyway hehe

2004-07-12 [barutha]: i notice this place has been queit for a while now. when will the contest end?

2004-07-13 [Saffron]: end it? I just started it!

2004-08-29 [Saffron]: whoo a new animation! nice too, only that poor little mouse...

2004-08-29 [liiga]: I thought it's a rabbit. Only a really tiny rabbit.

2004-08-29 [GregowicH]: yes, it's a rabbit.. in fact the rabbit is in normal sizes, eagle is the one who's huge :)

2004-08-29 [Saffron]: it's a rabbit? CRUELTY VIOLENCE poor little bunny MURDERER (sorry to me bunnies are holy)

2004-08-29 [GregowicH]: :D hehehe... i would start telling "the circle of life" with the words from Lion King's script, but i'm too tired for that right now :D

2004-08-31 [barutha]: tahts some artwork on your animation gregowich. cool stuff

2004-08-31 [barutha]: hum when does this contest end?

2004-08-31 [Saffron]: when there's over 20 entries! XD

2004-08-31 [GregowicH]: thanks barutha :)

2004-09-16 [Sirfy]: ooooo i wanna enter :D Learning animation now :P

2004-09-17 [Saffron]: whee would love to see what you come up with! ^^

2004-09-17 [Athanatos Nivalis]: Is this okay?

2004-09-17 [liiga]: they're 'penguins', actually. did you draw those images?

2004-09-17 [Athanatos Nivalis]: I thought You Won't Accept it ^_^" I would if I haven't got so much Homework....

2004-09-17 [liiga]: erm i've no say in accepting anything. :P just asking. but the way it is right now, it looks like it's stomping over some copyrights.

2004-09-17 [Athanatos Nivalis]: Is it? O_o

2004-09-17 [liiga]: well if you didn't draw those images, then yes.

2004-09-17 [Athanatos Nivalis]: *sigh*

2004-09-18 [Saffron]: erm nope sorry, not acceptable

2004-09-18 [Athanatos Nivalis]: I'll try and find some time to draw it...

2004-09-19 [Athanatos Nivalis]: A very Quick one ^_^"

2004-09-19 [Athanatos Nivalis]: It was drwan on Computer so it's a bit...

2004-09-19 [Saffron]: it looks great! I especially like the purple one, welcome to the contest!

2004-09-19 [Athanatos Nivalis]: The Red one went wrong when I turned it into a Gif ^_^"

2004-09-19 [Athanatos Nivalis]: Hee hee, Blobbie ^_^

2004-09-21 [Gwendolen]: Is this qualified? Drawn all by lill' ol' me...:P

2004-09-22 [Saffron]: that's very pretty! I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be qualified!

2004-09-22 [Gwendolen]: ^-^

2004-10-11 [amuletts]: Just wondering what programmes do you guys use to make you animations? I want to try it. Also do any of you do Flash? Same question.

2004-10-11 [Gwendolen]: err... I used Jasc's Animation Shop 3... kind of. Or more likely just goofed around with it... ^-^

2004-10-12 [amuletts]: Thanks, I'm really interested in animation at the mo and guessed you were the best people to quiz. Look - me learning *points*

2004-10-12 [Saffron]: wow a real hand-drawn animation, I admire you!

2004-10-12 [amuletts]: :O *faints* (as you can see I'm kinda getting into this now)

2005-01-08 [the Indigo]: how do you use photoshop to make a GIF?

2005-06-29 [Saffron]: I wonder, will any more people be entering?

2005-07-07 [EnyNotaim]: the ones from amuletts are beautiful! I wish I could get an animation-programm of some kind...

2005-07-15 [merilwen]: This looks like an interesting contest :) maybe if I get time I will make a pic for it....     I myself use imageready, which works with photoshop. its great because you can create in photoshop, and one click imports it to imageready so you can animate it!

2005-07-20 [the Indigo]: Where did you buy that, [merilwen]?

2005-07-25 [Saffron]: oh boy, deviantart doesn't seem to like direct linking, am I the only one who can only save shown images as bmp? and I'm thinking about closing this contest, anyone with me say aye!

2005-08-04 [Janouk]: NoOOo! ^^ I've just learned today how to use adobe with making animations!

2005-09-02 [Saffron]: ooh, although it would have been nicer if it wasn't blood coming out of that eye :P

2005-09-02 [Zab]: hehe..I was depressed when I thought of that one....the third I've ever done..

2005-09-04 [Saffron]: aww I really like those cute animations :D

2005-10-09 [iippo]: Graa, why am I learning of this place only now? *will so enter!*

2005-11-29 [Saffron]: Deadline: January 1st!

2005-11-29 [Saffron]: List of gif's that aren't working, or so it seems: #8 [Athanatos Nivalis] #15 [Nere] note that it is possible to upload your animated gifs directly to the page nowadays!

2005-12-04 [Different Realities]: i can't figure out how to color my gif. I have easytoon...

2005-12-04 [Different Realities]: I like #15, it's funny, how on earth do you people get good drawings on those things?

2005-12-07 [Noxme]: ah there all so cute!

2005-12-10 [iippo]: T_T Mine is far over-size, so I can't enter (it's impossible to resize any further).

2005-12-10 [Saffron]: hmm, that can happen when you use too many colors... strange though, with animation shop I can resize all I want

2005-12-11 [iippo]: It's greyscale... T_T It just has a lot of frames...

2005-12-11 [Saffron]: o.O and they're all really different from each other? Wow, now I'm curious

2005-12-11 [Zab]: My have 32 frames..Oo

2005-12-12 [iippo]: Not really different, but without them it wouldn't be smooth. Means... It has about 10 keyframes and the rest are inbetweens. It's not fancy enough to look good without the smoothness.

2005-12-18 [Saffron]: Whoot! In my enthusiasm I made another example, even though it's a bad example because there's hardly anything moving. Maybe I could come up with an animated badge, too before the deadline :P

2005-12-19 [spiritee]: i don't think we can put up animated badges~

2005-12-19 [Saffron]: of course we can! but ok, I'll test it for you first... outcome: we can indeed (maybe not with the "official" badges but I can't give you those anyway))

2005-12-19 [iippo]: No I think spiritee meant that the guards might delete it. Animated banners aren't allowed in houses.

2005-12-19 [Saffron]: Really? Ok let's go through the laws here then, in help, hedda writes: "You may upload animated GIFs, but I don't like it."

2005-12-19 [Saffron]: "S-1. Animated images are not allowed in your house." This includes animations donated to Elftown Graphics and animated wiki-banners. The only exception to this rule is non-annoying animated images made by you. Something that makes you look for the delete button is annoying. Animated images can be removed by the guards without warning."

2005-12-19 [Jitter]: That's what [iippo] said. That they're not allowed in houses ^_^ I guess one could ut it in a wiki though. But I like still images better. Loads faster!

2005-12-19 [Saffron]: ok, now here's what I think: a prize badge isn't a banner, if it's not annoying, it's ok by everyone except hedda because he obviously hates animated gifs, and if I can't make a general badge for this contest, I could always make a badge out of the winning entry, because then it will be made by the winner and they can't delete it, as long as it's not annoying

2005-12-19 [Saffron]: Look at my example images, they're 25 kb, at most! I don't see how a guard could have a problem with an animated gif badge for the animated gif contest

2005-12-19 [Jitter]: I don't know dear.. Maybe you should ask a guard about it in the end!

2005-12-19 [Saffron]: yeah, but what if another guard comes along and deletes it? :P

2005-12-19 [Jitter]: hmm well maybe the whoever displays it should say they got permission from that certain other guard to display it

2005-12-19 [Zab]: It's not allowed because animated gifs are not allowed, and they are not allowed because many of them are annoying and most of them random. To still allow people to show non-annoying and not random images, it is allowed to have a non-annoying animated gif in the house, if the owner of the house made it. Maybe a banner for this contest wouldn't harm, but rules always gets wrong somewhere, and if animated banners where allowed, we would be filled with animated, random and annoying banners. :)

2005-12-19 [Zab]: What goes for making a winnersbadge out of the winning entry, it should be ok if the winner writes he/she made the animation. ;)

2005-12-19 [Saffron]: :P yeah, I don't need any credit for my time and hard work anyway! but seriously, in that case it will probably just be a pretty border around the winner's own animation anyway

2005-12-19 [Zab]: oh, and just to make it clear: I'm not a guard or anything. :P // yeah, either that, or a normal badge. :)

2005-12-20 [spiritee]: *shakes head* trust me, it's not allowed, unless it's made by yourself. the Herald had an animated badge for the Hunt, very subtle, but yeah, wasn't allowed.

2005-12-20 [Zab]: If they made a winnersbadge, of the winners entry, it should be made by the winner, right? So the winner could have it in the house... :) Or am I completely wrong?

2005-12-20 [iippo]: That badge-out-of-winning-animation would be a handy way for this competition to go around that rule. The winner (=maker of the animation) would be allowed to put it in his/her house, no one else would (no one else wouldn't because they wouldn't be the winner, perfect!) But a general animated badge for this contest isn't allowed. But that winner's animation as a winner's badge-prize would be ok. And all of you can also put your own entries in your houses.

2005-12-20 [Different Realities]: I've tried to put my own entrie in my house... I not going through that again. No way no how!

2005-12-20 [iippo]: I had a look at your house there, you had a problem with putting your animation there? Just copy the URL of your animation from here to your house: <img:http://elftown.lysator.liu.se/stuff/smart_smiley.gif>

2005-12-21 [Different Realities]: if that is what I am supose to put... then why didn't it show up in the comment box thing?

2005-12-21 [iippo]: Because there is a tag that can be used to block other tags from working, in order to demonstrate the actual code that you are supposed to write. It's like whenever you write it, it will not show up. So if inside the img you write ! u Q t ! (without spaces), you get the code instead of the image showing up.

2005-12-21 [Jitter]: I wonder if it works for itself !uQt!

2005-12-21 [Zab]: no..it doesnt..:P but you can write another code to show it.. !uQt! XD (that code is ! ! uQt ! uQt ! without spaces, and there is no code for that, that I know of..:P

2005-12-21 [Jitter]: Yay I did it ^_^

2005-12-21 [Zab]: you edited your comment after I commented! :O

2005-12-21 [Jitter]: Yeah ^_^

2005-12-21 [Zab]: I knew it! XD

2005-12-21 [Saffron]: look what a funny animation photobucket.com made :P

2005-12-22 [iippo]: Well... I managed to rezise mine a little... but it still isn't small enough to fit into the contest (it's around 700kb). Ah well, thought you might like to see it: http://elftown.lysator.liu.se/stuff/BirdGIF.gif

2005-12-22 [Saffron]: Cute! But I think I know why it's so big, you probably saved every frame as a different JPEG picture before combining them into an animation. You need to save your separate frames into a more consistant format like PNG or GIF, then the background will always be the same and can be compressed in your animated GIF. JPEG and animation don't go together very well :)

2005-12-22 [Melocrie]: Oh that's why my animation files are so huge O_O

2005-12-22 [iippo]: Ahh, thanks for the tip. Hmm, I'll see what I can do about that.

2005-12-22 [Different Realities]: i like yours [iippo] it has color. mines just a smart ass. so i got some credit there. lol

2005-12-23 [iippo]: Mine has colour? O_o;

2005-12-23 [Saffron]: 22:05:20 Sunrose: Sorry [Saffron], I forgot to say this. The animated GIF can be used as a prize as a one time exception. Make sure the winner states under the image that it was approved by the Guardsteam. This to make sure another Guard does not come along and delete it.. :)

2005-12-23 [Saffron]: :D whee! now I can make the prize badge anyway ^^

2005-12-24 [Different Realities]: yeah [iippo], mine is black and white, yours has shades of gray.

2005-12-24 [iippo]: Ah, got it now ^_^;;;

2005-12-29 [Saffron]: and can anyone see [Athanatos Nivalis]'s entry?

2005-12-29 [Zab]: nope..not me

2005-12-29 [Saffron]: oh and do you guys like the prize badge or will I have to make it prettier/personalize it?

2005-12-29 [Zab]: I love it! But it's illegal to have in houses..

2005-12-29 [Saffron]: and [iippo], I think it would be really nice to have you in the contest, if you can't get it any smaller you can do what [xDyingx Valentinex] did with her first animation, it can now be 250 kb by the way, because it turned out a lot of people were breaking that rule...

2005-12-30 [iippo]: I could put a still on this page and put a link to the animation that would open in a different window. Otherwise the bird will make everyone else's animation lag as well as itself. Erm, what did [xDyingx Valentinex] do with her first entry?

2005-12-30 [Saffron]: she used a < img200 > thumbnail tag, and the animation opens when you click it, so I think it's what you want, [barutha]'s entry was absurdly big as well by the way, I hope the page loads faster now

2005-12-30 [iippo]: Mine's just large in bytes, not so much in dimensions. Ah well, it's worth the try, I suspose. I'll put it up and we'll see if everyone starts going slow, then I'll make a still of it and give a link.

2005-12-30 [Saffron]: update: badges for everyone! ^^ after I announced the results of course

2005-12-30 [Zab]: Uhm... you should let the participants know that those badges are against the rules to have in houses, it's ok on wiki's tho..

2005-12-30 [iippo]: Yeah. What happened to the plan of making the winning animation all special with a border and saying winner? That way the winner could put it in his/her house.

2005-12-30 [Jitter]: Ohhhh nice badges!

2005-12-30 [Janouk]: Aaaaaahh pretty badges! ;-)

2005-12-30 [Saffron]: *cough* 22:05:20 Sunrose: Sorry [Saffron], I forgot to say this. The animated GIF can be used as a prize as a one time exception. Make sure the winner states under the image that it was approved by the Guardsteam. This to make sure another Guard does not come along and delete it.. :)

2005-12-30 [Saffron]: [iippo]: I felt like making one on my own sice it was approved of and all, but... if you'd rather not put them in your houses, that's all up to you of course, hmm, I'm not sure if the participant badges are really allowed, otherwise we'll find out soon enough, right? and besides this was more fun for me :P, I could try to put the 1st winner's entry inside the glass sphere but I don't know if that would work at all!

2005-12-30 [Zab]: Oh! Great then, they're really neat. :)

2005-12-31 [iippo]: Well I think at least the 1st 2nd and 3rd should be ok. I mean, if I made a little animation to my friend it wouldn't be irrelevant to them and they could have it in their house, right? (same principal as other gift-images). Good point. Ah well, I still can't edit my house without removing and revamping it a lot, and I'm not done designing my new house yet... :3 Architechture is so fun :D

2005-12-31 [Zab]: Uhm.. no, if you made an animation your friend couldn't use them.. 'made by you' it sais in the rules, not 'made by you or a friend' :) But these one seems to have a special permission :)

2005-12-31 [iippo]: Oh, I see. Discrimination! :P

2006-01-01 [Saffron]: lol, now that's some sick animation, seen monty python and the meaning of life by any chance?

2006-01-01 [Saffron]: hmm, what do you guys think? how many votes should be substracted for each 100 kB too big in size?

2006-01-01 [Zab]: I have no idea how big mine is.. how to check that?

2006-01-01 [Saffron]: right-click, properties and then look at the size in bytes and do math, but yours aren't too big, only the thumbnailed ones are

2006-01-01 [Zab]: uhm..I tried but it sais 'un-known' to me..O_o

2006-01-01 [Artsieladie]: It's 211.66 KB....  :)

2006-01-01 [Zab]: thanks..:) then it's over the size limit..>_>

2006-01-01 [iippo]: XD I'd need at least 7 votes to get out of the minus... Ah wel, it was fun to take part.

2006-01-01 [Artsieladie]: But [Saffron] said that yours isn't & at the top the size limit is 250 KB's, so yours is ok, or it should be. :P

2006-01-01 [Zab]: oh..size limit is changed sinse I put my entry up? because I wrote beside it..XD

2006-01-01 [Janouk]: Ohh...I tried to make another (better) one but missed the deadline *sob* O well, Happy new year to everyone!!! :D

2006-01-01 [Saffron]: yes, the size limit is changed from 200 to 250 because too many people were exceeding it, and the deadline hasn't been reached yet because in the latest possible time zone the 1st ends at 13.00 elftown (european) time, good night!

2006-01-02 [Alexxei]: I made this bear to my gf Milu

2006-01-02 [Melocrie]: isn't it over by now?

2006-01-02 [iippo]: 3 more hours to go.

2006-01-13 [Saffron]: unbelievable... new rule: no asking people to vote for you, just ask them to vote >< and if I see you breaking this rule, votes will be substracted

2006-01-18 [Saffron]: Announcement: votes will be substracted from [Different Realities] for the reason above, 75% would be reasonable I think

2006-01-19 [Saffron]: argh! a 3-fold tie for 3rd place ><

2006-01-19 [Janouk]: O well, more votes will come...:-)

2006-01-19 [RoyDante]: Yaay! :D ppl like my entry *runs in circles jumping* ^_^ lol.. ignore me xD

2006-01-19 [Janouk]: Of course, it is really nice ;-)

2006-01-19 [RoyDante]: xD lol.. is it? thanks! :D :D

2006-01-22 [Saffron]: There's still that 3-fold tie! ><

2006-02-01 [Saffron]: Guess what date it is!

2006-02-01 [Melocrie]: Imbolc!? ^^

2006-02-01 [Saffron]: Congratulations to all!

2006-02-02 [RoyDante]: Oh WOW ! :D I PLACED THIRD!! :D Wheeee!! *jumping around the place* ^_^ ^_^ Did I really win the 3:rd place??!! :D woooow... o.o Thank you all who liked my entry! ^_^

2006-02-02 [Zab]: Congrats! :P

2006-02-02 [Janouk]: *nods* I've very much enjoyed the contest and the entries ;-)

2006-02-03 [Saffron]: I'm glad you have ^^

2006-02-03 [GregowicH]: congrats everyone!